The power of real conversations in well-being: A chat with Jules Kelly

24 April 2024

In the midst of the cacophony of advice and noise about well-being, it’s refreshing to have real, down-to-earth conversations that resonate with people. In this episode of the podcast, Alison welcomes Jules Kelly to delve into the essence of well-being and the importance of authentic self-care.


The Foundation of Well-being


Jules emphasises that well-being is the foundation of everything but acknowledges that it takes work and doesn’t come easy. She talks about the importance of affording oneself the same level of grace that is given to others, a sentiment Alison wholeheartedly agrees with. Often, we don’t treat ourselves as kindly as we would treat others, and it’s essential to redefine what kindness means to us individually.


“Well-being for me is the foundation of everything.”

– Jules Kelly


Changing Definitions of Success


As we grow older, our definitions of success evolve. Jules reflects on how her perception of success has changed over the years, noting that what seemed like success at 21 looks different at 54. Alison agrees, adding that we can’t know everything in advance; we need to live through experiences to truly understand and believe them.


The Illusion of Instant Fixes


In our fast-paced society, there’s a strong desire for instant gratification and quick fixes. Both Alison and Jules caution against this mindset. They highlight the importance of intentional, consistent change and challenge the idea that a single coaching session or weekend course can transform one’s life overnight.


The Importance of Authenticity and Individuality


Jules stresses the significance of embracing individuality, not just in the workplace but also in education. She discusses how the system isn’t geared up for individuals, leading to labels and misconceptions. Alison recalls her own experiences in school and within her family, feeling out of place and struggling to fit in.


Permission to Be Yourself


The concept of giving oneself permission to be authentic and true to oneself is a recurring theme in their conversation. Jules and Alison encourage listeners to ask themselves who sets the rules they feel they should follow. Both advocate for a change in narrative, promoting the idea that it’s not failure to ask for help or to change direction—it’s a necessary part of growth and self-discovery.


“One of the main things for me is self-awareness.”

– Alison Blackler


The Mind-Body Connection


Jules and Alison discuss the importance of the mind-body connection and the role of the nervous system in regulating our responses. They emphasise the need for sustainable, transformational change that goes beyond surface-level solutions and taps into deeper, core issues.




In a world full of noise and quick fixes, this conversation serves as a reminder of the importance of real, meaningful dialogues about well-being. Both Alison and Jules advocate for a more nuanced, individualised approach to well-being, emphasising the significance of self-awareness, authenticity, and the continuous journey of self-discovery and growth.


So, the next time you find yourself feeling lost or overwhelmed by the plethora of well-being advice out there, remember to give yourself permission to be authentic, to ask for help when needed, and to embrace the journey of self-discovery and growth, one step at a time.

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